Do you think this kind of guild would work? - Guild Wars Forums

Beatrix of Alexandria · Jan 02, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Firstly, I don't mean to make this a guild recruiting post at all! I just want opinions if you think this kind of guild would work and if you would join it if you needed a guild...not to recruit you, but in a hypothetical situation. I suppose I want to know if this is a viable idea and that I'm not trying to do too much or that there are too many other guilds like this idea.

Basically I want to start a casual players (no "have to play every day" thing...all good if you run off for a few days, after all life comes first) guild more oriented towards high level pve content and some AB in the mix. I'm thinking that a group of people playing tombs, sorrows furnace, fow, uw, rotscale, and other such farming/higher level pve content areas would be fun to make a guild out of. In addition, I figure we'd also be able to help out each other play through the game, maybe help out some random new players, and maybe also play some AB if people are so inclined.

Does this sound like other guilds that are around, or that I'm trying to spread too thin, or something else? I just wanted some feedback before I go try and do this and only end up with myself in the guild.

Cam_Payton · Jan 02, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by Beatrix of Alexandria

Basically I want to start a casual players (no "have to play every day" thing...all good if you run off for a few days, after all life comes first) guild more oriented towards high level pve content and some AB in the mix. I'm thinking that a group of people playing tombs, sorrows furnace, fow, uw, rotscale, and other such farming/higher level pve content areas would be fun to make a guild out of. In addition, I figure we'd also be able to help out each other play through the game, maybe help out some random new players, and maybe also play some AB if people are so inclined.

Does this sound like other guilds that are around, or that I'm trying to spread too thin, or something else? I just wanted some feedback before I go try and do this and only end up with myself in the guild.

I found at least 2 dozen like these in my travels over the last several months, so I think if that's what you are shooting for there is definetly a "market" for it. Based off my travels, generally speaking it's when you try to mix GvG/HA with PvE that you end up heavy on 1 side and extremely light on the other

DeanBB · Jan 02, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30

That sounds like a normal PvE-focused guild to me, people doing a variety of activities available for PvE.

Senrath · Jan 02, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Cam_Payton on the issue of balancing. The guild I'm in right now is supposed to be both PvE and PvP, but the majority of guild chat is "Wanna do GvG when we get enough people?" and most PvE chat gets ignored. Also, there should be some guide lines for how often a person must play. My guild has none and because of that I am 1 of maybe about a dozen active people out of 40 or 50.

But anyway, that kind of guild would work, just not usually exactly how you expected it to.

Bowstring Badass · Jan 02, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52

PvE = easy dude.

Beatrix of Alexandria · Jan 02, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Yeah, I kinda figured it would either be like every other one out there or just be rather odd to pull off. Eh, I'll just try and find a guild I like and join then. Thanks for the info!

Sofonisba · Jan 03, 2007, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by Beatrix of Alexandria

Yeah, I kinda figured it would either be like every other one out there or just be rather odd to pull off. Eh, I'll just try and find a guild I like and join then. Thanks for the info!

The thing about having your own guild, even though it can be hard/stressful at times (even in a "just for fun" guild, trust me on that), you can direct it just how you please, inviting the kind of players you want. When you promote people to officers, you promote them based on their character, not their bank account, rank, seniority, or whatever. And it's your call.

If you're looking for an existing one, visiting forums can be helpful, to see whether the potential guild has characteristics of the guild YOU envisioned to make.

For example,
Is it a diverse age/cultural group? Or do you want everyone on the same time zone and maturity level?
Do they have a code of conduct? Is it fair, too strict, too lenient?
Do they encourage each other or compete?
Is there good-natured ribbing or do their jokes go too far?
Do they care about each other, or do you just want a place to escape, you don't want in on people's real lives?

Just things to think about.

Kendar Muert · Jan 03, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

We have a unique setup. We have members who are mostly interested in playing low end pve content mainly since they havent been on much since nf, and we have the people who have finished all the games and like high end pve. Then, our alliance is friendly and has enough people to throw a halls group together whenever we feel like it. Thats the best way to go, i think.
Just have enough people who share interests in different things that you can do whatever you want.

Priest Of Sin · Jan 24, 2007, 04:31 PM // 16:31

that is the beauty of alliances! My alliance [SYKO] has tons of guilds. [FAME] is your one-stop-shop for fame farming, [DoA] (the one i'm currently in) is the hardcore PvEers guild, filled with peeps who do all high level crap. [SEAR] is our Pre-Searing division. [TYRI] is for Prophecies, [CANT] is for Cantha (ironic name :P), and [ELON] is for elona based missions and stuff. We also have a bunch of random guilds that just like GvG.

I <3 my alliance.

Captain Dingo · Feb 11, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28

There's definitely markets for that stuff, but I find that the people interested in those sorts of guilds already found one. Most of the new people who arrive in Guild Wars want PvP, and for every 100 of those, there's maybe 1 or 2 that are interested in a PvE guild.

I should know, just from my own experiences. My guild is still absolutely empty, and I've been struggling to get people in to get it started (normally I go to all districts in all major cities of all expansions to recruit, but I'm at the point of going to every obscure place, too), but when you say PvE-only, 99.9% of the Guild Wars community shuts their ears. It's definitely frustrating, and it's nowhere near as easy as starting a guild for PvP, you have but to send the message and you'll get tons of interest whispering you back.

Keep trying, but like myself, you may have to suck it up and face the fact that nobody is obviously interested in organized PvE anymore, as my list of successful recruits thus far (zero) seems to confirm. I want to play with people, but a lot of the people you get in random pickup groups are mentally unstable at best. I've got to stick with heroes for now, but I'm hopeful...

RodyPA · Feb 21, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

That sounds like a great philosophy for a PvE guild. They generally drift to high-level content, simply because the members help each other get their characters through the game, then move on to more challenging areas. That also lends itself to the laid-back attitude.

I'd recommend that you not actively recruit if you want to start your guild, or to try and quickly push into guilds if you decide to join instead. The best way to get that environment is to play with others for a while, decide you like the players and their play style, and then go for it.

Jan 02, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20	#1
Beatrix of Alexandria Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006	Do you think this kind of guild would work? Firstly, I don't mean to make this a guild recruiting post at all! I just want opinions if you think this kind of guild would work and if you would join it if you needed a guild...not to recruit you, but in a hypothetical situation. I suppose I want to know if this is a viable idea and that I'm not trying to do too much or that there are too many other guilds like this idea. Basically I want to start a casual players (no "have to play every day" thing...all good if you run off for a few days, after all life comes first) guild more oriented towards high level pve content and some AB in the mix. I'm thinking that a group of people playing tombs, sorrows furnace, fow, uw, rotscale, and other such farming/higher level pve content areas would be fun to make a guild out of. In addition, I figure we'd also be able to help out each other play through the game, maybe help out some random new players, and maybe also play some AB if people are so inclined. Does this sound like other guilds that are around, or that I'm trying to spread too thin, or something else? I just wanted some feedback before I go try and do this and only end up with myself in the guild. Last edited by Beatrix of Alexandria; Jan 02, 2007 at 12:22 AM // 00:22..

Jan 02, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#3
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	That sounds like a normal PvE-focused guild to me, people doing a variety of activities available for PvE.

Jan 02, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00	#4
Senrath Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Halfway between here and there Guild: Advanced Technology [CCCP]	Unfortunately, I have to agree with Cam_Payton on the issue of balancing. The guild I'm in right now is supposed to be both PvE and PvP, but the majority of guild chat is "Wanna do GvG when we get enough people?" and most PvE chat gets ignored. Also, there should be some guide lines for how often a person must play. My guild has none and because of that I am 1 of maybe about a dozen active people out of 40 or 50. But anyway, that kind of guild would work, just not usually exactly how you expected it to.

Jan 02, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52	#5
Bowstring Badass Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Character selection screen figuring what I want to play... Guild: Purple Lingerie - :D	PvE = easy dude.

Jan 02, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33	#6
Beatrix of Alexandria Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006	Yeah, I kinda figured it would either be like every other one out there or just be rather odd to pull off. Eh, I'll just try and find a guild I like and join then. Thanks for the info!

Jan 03, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42	#8
Kendar Muert Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Profession: E/	We have a unique setup. We have members who are mostly interested in playing low end pve content mainly since they havent been on much since nf, and we have the people who have finished all the games and like high end pve. Then, our alliance is friendly and has enough people to throw a halls group together whenever we feel like it. Thats the best way to go, i think. Just have enough people who share interests in different things that you can do whatever you want.

Jan 24, 2007, 04:31 PM // 16:31	#9
Priest Of Sin Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne. Guild: Live For The Swarm [ZERG] Profession: Me/N	that is the beauty of alliances! My alliance [SYKO] has tons of guilds. [FAME] is your one-stop-shop for fame farming, [DoA] (the one i'm currently in) is the hardcore PvEers guild, filled with peeps who do all high level crap. [SEAR] is our Pre-Searing division. [TYRI] is for Prophecies, [CANT] is for Cantha (ironic name :P), and [ELON] is for elona based missions and stuff. We also have a bunch of random guilds that just like GvG. I <3 my alliance.

Feb 11, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28	#10
Captain Dingo Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2007 Profession: Me/Rt	There's definitely markets for that stuff, but I find that the people interested in those sorts of guilds already found one. Most of the new people who arrive in Guild Wars want PvP, and for every 100 of those, there's maybe 1 or 2 that are interested in a PvE guild. I should know, just from my own experiences. My guild is still absolutely empty, and I've been struggling to get people in to get it started (normally I go to all districts in all major cities of all expansions to recruit, but I'm at the point of going to every obscure place, too), but when you say PvE-only, 99.9% of the Guild Wars community shuts their ears. It's definitely frustrating, and it's nowhere near as easy as starting a guild for PvP, you have but to send the message and you'll get tons of interest whispering you back. Keep trying, but like myself, you may have to suck it up and face the fact that nobody is obviously interested in organized PvE anymore, as my list of successful recruits thus far (zero) seems to confirm. I want to play with people, but a lot of the people you get in random pickup groups are mentally unstable at best. I've got to stick with heroes for now, but I'm hopeful...

Feb 21, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44	#11
RodyPA Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Life With The Thrill Kill Kult [Kult] Profession: R/	That sounds like a great philosophy for a PvE guild. They generally drift to high-level content, simply because the members help each other get their characters through the game, then move on to more challenging areas. That also lends itself to the laid-back attitude. I'd recommend that you not actively recruit if you want to start your guild, or to try and quickly push into guilds if you decide to join instead. The best way to get that environment is to play with others for a while, decide you like the players and their play style, and then go for it.